Tobi Vail

Tobi Vail
Born 20 July 1969 (1969-07-20) (age 42)
Auburn, Washington, United States
Occupations Musician, publisher
Instruments drums, guitar, bass, piano, Vocals
Years active mid-80s-present
Labels K Records, Kill Rock Stars, Bumpidee, Chainsaw, Lookout!, Wiiija, Yoyo, Simple Machines, Catcall Records, Ebullition, Outpunk, Chicks on Speed
Associated acts Bikini Kill, The Go Team, Some Velvet Sidewalk, The Frumpies, The Old Haunts

Tobi Vail (born July 20, 1969) is an independent musician, DIY zinester, and feminist activist from Olympia, Washington, noted primarily as the drummer of the defunct punk band Bikini Kill. She formed one of her first bands as the drummer for The Go Team when she was 15,[1] later collaborating in several other groups figuring in the Olympia music scene. Vail also briefly dated her friend Kurt Cobain.

Currently, she fronts Spider and the Webs and plays drums in Knife in the Eye.

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Biography

Vail was born on the day of the first moon landing. Growing up in a very musical family, she started playing music early.

my dad and grandad were drummers. there are a lot of hillbilly musicians on my dad's side I started playing instruments and making up songs in junior high, played in bands in high school, started touring at 18[2]

The Go Team and Doris

One of her first bands was The Go Team, an experimental punk project started with Calvin Johnson in 1985. The group released several cassettes and 9 singles on the independent label K Records, mostly on the 7" vinyl format - a practice Vail continues to this day. Billy "Boredom" Karren was one of the rotating musicians who played with The Go Team, and it was in this band that he and Vail played together for the first time, later collaborating in several other bands like Bikini Kill, The Frumpies, the upallnighters, and Spray Painted Love. Other guest musicians included Rich Jensen, David Nichols, and Donna Dresch. They toured the West Coast as a two piece, adding Billy Karren for two U.S. tours.

The Go Team was about process. Sometimes we'd deliberately leave stuff out to incite participation in the listener. Donna Parker Pop, our first K release, featured all instrumentals but included the statement 'Make up your own words and sing along' - and people did. We recorded with some of those people later. . . . On the one hand we were trying to demystify music and encourage people to play songs in public -- if they wanted to. On the other hand, we actually liked what we sounded like, and we hated most of the pro-sounding jam bands/shredding metal-punk bands that played parties in Olympia. We embraced chaos and rejected mastery.[3]

Vail was also working as a DJ for KAOS (FM) and playing in an all-teenage girl band called Doris with Cheryl Hooper, Heidi Keys and Tam Orhmund at this time (1986–1988), which played shows around the Northwest with Beat Happening, Spook and the Zombies, Rich Jensen, Oklahoma Scramble, and Snake Pit. They made a demo tape, which was recorded by Steve Ross (Cactus Love, the Briefs) but never released. After the demise of The Go Team, Vail played in various project bands and made a record as the drummer for Some Velvet Sidewalk.

Bikini Kill

Vail is best known as the drummer of Bikini Kill, which lasted from 1990 to 1998. The band was often met with resistance and misunderstanding due to their chaotic live performances, controversial lyrics, and political zines which dealt with various activist-punk topics like anti-racism, vegetarianism, anti-corporatism, anti-capitalism, anti-heterosexism, and in particular feminist issues such as rape, incest, domestic violence, abortion, sexuality, body image and eating disorders, stalking, patriarchy, sexual assault, and sexism in general - all with a strong emphasis on community and DIY culture.

Vail recalls:

When Bikini Kill first started people reacted to what we did very strongly - either they really loved it or they really hated it, and a lot of times that was kinda hard to deal with, especially just starting out. I thought we would just be asking questions, and people saw us as 'dogmatic'...I didn't see it that way. Maybe our presentation was sort of dogmatic because every show we played was like a war, cos guys would try to beat us up and stuff, it was really violent...we had a lot of fans and we didn't have any crowd control, we didn't have a manager, we'd just play these crazy places like bowling alleys and then cram like 600 people in there, you know, no security.[4]

Despite frequent mainstream media misrepresentation[5][6] and serious violence at shows,[7] they continued for several years and today are largely credited (along with Bratmobile) with starting Riot Grrrl, a movement that merged Do It Yourself punk culture with feminism. The actual word 'grrrl' was coined in Vail's seminal journal, Jigsaw (1988–present), one of the first Northwestern punk zines to address gender issues explicitly. Prior to this, many influential female-centric bands like The Slits, Girlschool,[8] and Bush Tetras[9] had long resisted the notion of being thought of as "girl bands" and almost always avoided the word "feminism", with the occasional exceptions of bands like Poison Girls, Frightwig, and Au Pairs.

I understand why some women/girls/ladies don't want to be women-identified 'cuz it totally complicates your band identity and no one seems to pay much attention to the music or what you're doing. We have chosen to be girl-identified (although Billy isn't a girl!), because we want to encourage other women/girls to play music. When I was growing up, I found it discouraging to have all these women in bands not wanting to address the issue of gender...we're interested in what women are doing.[10]

Bratmobile's Girl Germs and riot grrrl, Jigsaw and Bikini Kill (zine) are credited as the first manifestos of riot grrrl, reclaiming feminism for the punk scene in an attempt to disrupt the straight white male bias thereof, and rebelling against such annoyances as having the women at their shows fall victim to sexual assault when attempting to enter the mosh pits or even get closer to the stage, their bodies often groped, their clothes deliberately torn off. In response to such attacks, not only against the girls in the audience but often against themselves and their friends,[7][11] Bikini Kill encouraged girls to stand at the front of the stage and start their own bands.[12]

The general feeling of wanting to encourage more girls to start bands, zines, make their own culture and create their own homemade and fiercely independent media grew rapidly in popularity through a largely underground network of similar-feeling fans, artists, musicians and writers, and soon regular meetings started taking place, usually in punk houses like Positive Force. Bikini Kill had started working there with friends like Nation of Ulysses and Fugazi after moving to Washington DC in 1991.

Much like her influences Billy Childish[2] and Moe Tucker,[13] riot grrrl emphasized a strong advocacy for the DIY indie-punk philosophies and "you can do anything" attitude of amateurism.

In a music scene and era turned professional it is important to demonstrate allegiance and respect for the realm of the unprofessional musical endeavors. This means we are trying to rebel against the idea that everything must last, must be a record, must have a promo sheet. Sometimes things are just what they are and then later they are something else. The professionals of the world will try and argue for bands that should break up to stay together and go on tour but sometimes the spontaneous approach is much more than this could ever be: START YOUR OWN BAND AND DO WHAT YOU WANNA DO[2]

The band itself released several LPs and singles on their friend Slim's then-new label [[Kill Rock Stars] and toured extensively across the US, Europe, Japan, and Australia, which helped spread the word further.

The Frumpies

In 1992 Tobi started The Frumpies in DC with bandmates Kathi Wilcox and Billy Karren, Molly Neuman of Bratmobile and The PeeChees, and later Michelle Mae. They wrote and recorded several 7" singles, most of which are compiled on the Kill Rock Stars release Frumpie One Piece, and many recorded on a cassette four track[14] Distinctly less overtly political in nature than either BK or Bratmobile, and refining a much different sound (no bass player, 3 guitar players), they toured the U.S. with Huggy Bear in 1993 and Italy with "yes wave"-electro-avant-punk-noise band Dada Swing in 2000.

Other projects

Apart from the 5 other above mentioned bands, and occasionally releasing under her own name and various pseudonyms, Vail has played in quite a few underground bands before and after the friendly break-up of Bikini Kill in 98, including: |}

"tobi for me is heroic"
Mike Watt[15]

Bands Against Bush, Ladyfest, and FAB

Vail still keeps with her DIY efforts to encourage more women into the independent punk scene as a founding member of Ladyfest, a volunteer-based music and arts festival for female independent musicians, performance artists, spoken word poets, visual artists, and authors, for which most of the proceeds are donated directly to non-profit organisations. The festival also holds workshops for girls on everything from music lessons, to how to make a zine, to self defense courses.[16]

She is also one of the founders of Bands Against Bush, an international resistance network of artists and musicians dedicated to promoting and organizing activism and direct action against George W. Bush, his administration and the rest of the PNAC. It was inspired by the very first show she ever attended: a Rock Against Reagan benefit in 1983.[17] A recent New York Times article claimed BAB was under surveillance by the U.S. government.[18]

She also founded FAB (Feminist Action Brigade), a feminist book club based in Olympia that attempted to start an activist network using zines and the internet. Recent publications are Spider Magic, F.A.B. and Pogo for Peace.

Bumpidee

In 1994, Vail started her own DIY cassette label called Bumpidee (named after the Portland-based Sunday morning children's show and eponymous character Bumpity) and released music by Worst Case Scenario, the Corrections, the Bonnot Gang, and the Slatternlies. Recent releases include demos by Spider and the Webs and Marissa Magic and a compilation called "Spider Friends". Each tape comes with a newsletter called The Bumpidee Times which contextualizes each release, and many are often free in the anti-capitalist DIY punk spirit of sharing.

Although many KRS artists have since signed to major labels Kathleen Hanna, The Gossip), Vail's output has always remained consistently independent of corporate ownership. A letter she wrote appears in the liner notes of a KRS compilation called Stars Kill Rock:

Despite the much publicized notion of the non-existence of such a thing, underground music is very much alive, as this record is evidence of, and so let it be known that the mass dissemination of an ideology indicating the otherwise should be taken for what it is. A desperate plea on the part of those “alternative nation” co-conspirators who are so busy trying to convince themselves that simply because they are no longer punk rockers, punk rock must no longer exist. This is an obvious solipsism but because of their connections with major labels and to the music industry in general they have the ability to widely distribute their opinions, henceforth perpetuating misinformation to such the extent that the situation demands at least some kind of an acknowledgment by those of us who know better.

Later, in Mark Andersen's book Dance of Days: Two Decades of Punk in the Nation's Capitol, she continued:

Now, more that [sic?] ever, it's the time to forge the underground idea, 'cuz in the face of corporate co-option, us true punks gotta stick together. Some of my best friends are in bands that are on major labels and I respect their choice, but it's not the sound of the revolution.

Personal

Vail grew up in Naselle and Olympia Washington.[19] She began working in the mail order department of Kill Rock Stars prior to the breakup of her band Bikini Kill in 1997.[20] She was laid off in 2011 when her job was outsourced. Vail also maintains a blog, in which she discusses feminism and reviews music.[21]

From July to October 1990, Vail dated her friend, Nirvana frontman Kurt Cobain, with whom she had collaborated during her tenure in The Go Team on another side project called The Bathtub is Real. [3] Some inaccurate information may have been circulated about the relationship between Vail and Cobain. It has been purported that neither Vail or Cobain ever spoke publicly of their relationship. There is, therefore, a possibility that Nirvana biographers and rock journalists may have relied, in part, on second-hand information, rumors, and other misinformation stating that information as fact. Vail's friend Jenny Toomey relates, "Tobi refuses to speak publicly and participate in the exploitation of the Cobain myth by hack journalists trying to make a career, record companies trying to sell records, and feeble attempts made by ex-"friends" to mark their place in history."[22] The only interview she's ever given on the subject of Cobain was for Everett True. True is the only biographer who actually knew both of them.

Discography

The Go Team

Singles

Cassettes

Bikini Kill

Albums

Singles

Compilations

The Frumpies

Singles

Albums

Spider and the Webs

The Old Haunts

Footnotes

References

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